Retroid Pocket 5 vs 6 (2026): 70% Faster, $45 More

Retroid has run the same play for four generations now: take a phone chip a year or two past its flagship prime, bolt a gamepad around it, undercut everyone on price, and let the emulation community handle the marketing for free. The Pocket 5 executed that play cleanly in September 2024. The Pocket 6, which reached retail in March 2026, is the same play with a faster chip, a faster screen, and — thanks to a memory market that has spent all of 2026 being strip-mined for AI accelerators — a price that keeps creeping upward while you decide. The base model opened at $229. By June it was $244 on goretroid.com. That is not a sale, and it is not a typo. It is what a gigabyte of LPDDR5x costs when a data center in Arizona wants it more than you do.

This is a comparison review, so the question is not "is the Pocket 6 good" — it is, obviously — but whether the delta over a Pocket 5 you can still find for well under $200 is worth $45 and a heavier device. That answer depends entirely on the top of your library, and most of the internet will not tell you that because most of the internet is paid per affiliate click, not per honest paragraph. We are not. Let's read the spec sheet like adults.

The Upgrade Question

What Retroid actually changed

Strip away the marketing and the Pocket 6 changes exactly four things that matter and one that doesn't. It matters that the SoC jumped from a Snapdragon 865 to a Snapdragon 8 Gen 2 — two full flagship generations, and more importantly a GPU that roughly doubles. It matters that the AMOLED panel went from 60Hz to 120Hz. It matters that the battery grew from 5000mAh to 6000mAh and finally learned to fast-charge at 27W. And it matters that the I/O grew up: Wi-Fi 7, Bluetooth 5.3, native 4K60 video-out. What doesn't matter, despite the box copy, is that the RAM ceiling rose to 12GB — an Android emulation handheld has never once been starved for memory, and it won't start now.

The memory-crunch context

The uncomfortable subtext of this entire comparison is that the Pocket 6 is more expensive than it should be, and getting worse, for reasons that have nothing to do with Retroid. The same DRAM and NAND shortage that we covered when PCIe 6.0 SSDs shipped 28 GB/s to AI clusters and nothing to consumers is the reason a $229 handheld became a $244 handheld in ninety days. Retroid did not get greedy; the bill of materials got expensive. That context should temper any "just buy the new one" reflex, because the price premium you are paying is partly a tax on a component that barely affects how the thing plays.

Who this comparison is for

If you emulate PlayStation 1 and everything below it — the enormous, gorgeous, endlessly deep library that runs perfectly on a decade-old phone — this comparison is nearly academic and you should buy whichever is cheaper. If your ambitions climb into GameCube, Wii, and PS2 at upscaled resolutions, the comparison becomes real, and the Pocket 6 starts earning its premium one frame at a time. Everyone else is somewhere in between, which is where the rest of this review lives.

Specs, Head to Head

The full specification table

Here is the whole argument in one grid. Note two corrections to the marketing that has circulated: the Pocket 5 uses a Snapdragon 865, not a mid-range "7-series" part, and the Pocket 5 is not missing video-out — it does DisplayPort-over-USB-C, typically at 4K30, and 4K60 through the official dock. Anyone telling you the Pocket 5 can't reach a television is repeating a spec sheet they didn't test.

Reading the spec sheet

The rows that will change how the device feels in your hands, in rough order: the GPU jump (everything above PS1 is GPU-bound), the refresh rate (every menu, every 2D scroller, every bit of Android UI), and the fast-charging (a dead handheld back to useful in twenty minutes versus an hour). The rows that read impressively and change nothing you'll notice: the RAM ceiling, the Wi-Fi generation, the Bluetooth version. Wi-Fi 7 is genuinely useful for exactly one workflow — pulling large GameCube and PS2 ISOs onto the device over your LAN — and irrelevant the rest of the time.

The Snapdragon question

The Pocket 5's Snapdragon 865 is the SM8250 "Kona," a 7nm flagship from 2020 that powered the Galaxy S20 and half the Android phones people were excited about that year. Its Adreno 650 GPU was excellent then and is merely adequate now. The Pocket 6's Snapdragon 8 Gen 2 is the SM8550 "Kalama," a 4nm part with a Cortex-X3 prime core at 3.2GHz and, critically, an Adreno 740 that supports Vulkan 1.3 and roughly doubles the 650's throughput. For emulation, that GPU delta is the whole ballgame — the CPU uplift is nice, the GPU uplift is what moves Dolphin and PS2 titles from "playable with caveats" to "just playing."

Silicon and Speed

Geekbench 6, single-core

The headline synthetic number is single-core Geekbench 6: 1,176 for the Pocket 5, 1,985 for the Pocket 6. That is a 69% uplift, which rounds honestly to "about 70 percent faster" and which certain comparison sites have quietly rounded down to "about 50 percent," presumably because 50 sounds less like a reason to skip a generation. It isn't 50. It's 70. Whether 70% of single-thread throughput matters to you depends entirely on whether your emulators are CPU-bound, and below the sixth console generation almost none of them are.

What the ~70% uplift buys you

Concretely: PS1 upscaling headroom (2x on the Pocket 5, comfortably 4x on the Pocket 6, though at 1080p the difference is academic), a slightly wider set of N64 holdouts running full-speed without per-game fiddling, and — the real prize — GameCube at 3x native and PS2 at 1.5x to 2x native resolution rather than at native. RetroDodo's Brandon Saltalamacchia, reviewing the Pocket 6, clocked GameCube "at 3x native resolution" and PS2 "at 1.5x and 2x native resolution," which matches what we saw: Rogue Squadron and F-Zero GX upscaled cleanly, Gran Turismo 4 playable with minor tweaks. On the Pocket 5, the same GameCube library is real but narrower — Wind Waker, Luigi's Mansion, Melee — and mostly at native resolution.

Thermals and sustained clocks

Raw benchmark numbers are a fifteen-second lie; sustained clocks under a thirty-minute Dolphin session are the truth. The Pocket 6's larger chassis exists partly to house a better cooling solution, and the sixth-gen ceiling it advertises — Wii "with active cooling" — is a thermal claim as much as a compute one. The Pocket 5 throttles sooner and its practical Wii support is more of a demo than a library. Neither device is a PS3 or an Xbox 360 machine, whatever an over-caffeinated forum post tells you; RPCS3 and Xenia are slideshows on both, and any review claiming otherwise has never watched one try. If you want console-grade PS2 and GameCube accuracy without the Android compromise, that is a different and more expensive conversation — and it starts with an FPGA box like the MiSTer Multisystem 2, not with either of these.

The Display

60Hz vs 120Hz AMOLED

Both panels are 5.5-inch, 1080p, and use AMOLED — inky blacks, saturated color, the works. The Pocket 6 doubles the refresh rate to 120Hz, and the honest assessment is that this matters more for the ninety percent of the time you're navigating Android, EmulationStation, and RetroArch menus than for the games themselves. A SNES title runs at its native 60Hz (or 50Hz for PAL) no matter how fast your panel refreshes; the emulator can't invent frames the original hardware never produced. Where 120Hz genuinely helps is scrolling, UI responsiveness, and the small number of Android-native and modern indie titles you might side-load. Saltalamacchia called the Pocket 6's screen "beautiful" and "one I simply cannot fault," and said "a 5.5-inch AMOLED display makes the device feel incredibly modern." He is right, but the Pocket 5's panel is the same size and resolution and is also excellent — you are paying for the refresh, not the pixels.

Brightness: 400 vs 550 nits

The Pocket 6 pushes to roughly 550 nits against the Pocket 5's ~400, a 37% increase. That is a meaningful, felt improvement for anyone who plays near a window or, heaven help them, outdoors. AMOLED handhelds have historically been dimmer than their LCD counterparts, and 550 nits is the point where an OLED handheld stops apologizing in daylight. If your play environment is a dim living room after the kids are asleep — the natural habitat of this entire product category — the difference collapses to nothing, and 400 nits was already plenty.

Does 120Hz matter for retro?

For the retro core of the library: not really. For the device as a whole: a little. This is the cleanest example of a Pocket 6 upgrade that photographs better than it plays. If you spend your handheld time inside 8-bit and 16-bit libraries, the 60Hz Pocket 5 panel will not cost you a single frame of anything you actually run, and the money is better spent elsewhere — or not spent at all. The community consensus, from reviewers who've handled every one of these things, is remarkably consistent on this point: match the panel spend to the top of your real library, not to the spec sheet's ambitions.

Battery and Charging

5000 vs 6000mAh

The Pocket 6's battery grew 20% in capacity, from 5000mAh to 6000mAh, but real-world runtime scales by less than that because the faster, hungrier SoC eats into the gain. The net figure the comparison data lands on is roughly 6.0 hours average versus 5.0 hours — a 17% practical improvement — climbing to as much as 10 hours for pure 8-bit and 16-bit emulation, where the chip idles most of its cores. Saltalamacchia's independent numbers agree with the shape of that: he measured the Pocket 6 at around 4.5 hours mixed use, 6 to 8 hours on light systems, and 2.5 to 3 hours flat-out on the most demanding cores. Push a Pocket 6 hard enough to justify buying it — Dolphin, PS2 upscaling, active cooling engaged — and you'll see the low end of that range.

27W fast charging

The genuinely underrated upgrade. The Pocket 5 charges at unremarkable, unspecified speeds; the Pocket 6 supports 27W fast charging, verified at 25-26W in testing. In practice that means a device you forgot to charge is back to a usable state over the length of a coffee, not the length of a movie. For a handheld — a thing you grab on the way out the door — charge speed is arguably a bigger quality-of-life win than the extra 1000mAh. It won't sell a single unit off a spec sheet, and it will quietly improve every week you own the thing.

Real-world runtimes by system

The rule of thumb that survives contact with reality: expect 8-10 hours from either device on anything up to PS1, 5-7 hours on PSP and Dreamcast, and 2.5-4.5 hours once you're inside GameCube, Wii, and PS2. Retro Game Corps, whose battery testing is the closest thing this hobby has to a standards body, put the Pocket 6 at 6-8 hours of PS2 and GameCube work at 70% brightness — against roughly 5 hours on the Pocket 5 for comparable tasks. That is a real gap if the sixth generation is where you live, and a rounding error if it isn't. Russ Crandall's reviews at Retro Game Corps keep circling the same conclusion, and it's the correct one: the right handheld is the one matched to the top of your actual library, not the top of the spec sheet.

The Emulation Ceiling

8-bit through PS1: both trivial

Let's dispense with the easy part. Everything from the NES up through the original PlayStation runs perfectly on both devices, at full speed, with generous upscaling headroom, with no per-game configuration beyond picking a decent core. The Pocket 5's Snapdragon 865 was overkill for this library in 2024 and remains overkill in 2026. If your dream is the SNES and Genesis catalogs, a Game Boy Advance renaissance, and the deep back catalog that Hardcore Gaming 101 spends its life documenting, you are massively over-served by either of these and could honestly be looking at something a tenth the price. Getting the core assignments right matters more than the silicon here; our walkthrough on picking the right RetroArch core will do more for your PS1 experience than any chip upgrade.

PS2, GameCube, Wii: the dividing line

This is where the $45 stops being abstract. The PlayStation 2's Emotion Engine and the GameCube's Gekko PowerPC core are demanding emulation targets, and the Wii adds motion controls and its own quirks on top. The Pocket 6, with the Adreno 740 and active cooling, runs GameCube at 3x native and PS2 at 1.5-2x, and makes Wii genuinely practical — Super Mario Galaxy, Xenoblade Chronicles, Donkey Kong Country Returns all land in the "actually playable" column rather than the "technically boots" column. The Pocket 5 handles most of the PS2 and GameCube libraries too, but at native resolution and with a narrower list of comfortable titles, and its Wii support is more proof-of-concept than daily-driver. If the sixth generation is your reason for buying, this section is your reason for buying the 6.

Switch and the top end

Both devices can boot a handful of Nintendo Switch titles; neither is a Switch emulator in any honest sense. Expect light 2D games and a lot of asterisks. The Pocket 6's extra headroom widens the list slightly and stabilizes it a little, but anyone buying either of these for Switch emulation has misread the assignment. And to kill the persistent myth directly: neither device touches PS3 or Xbox 360 at playable speeds. These are sixth-generation-and-earlier machines with a sliver of seventh-gen reach. Here is the practical tier chart we'd hand a friend:

SYSTEM            EMULATOR (Android)   RP5  · 865 / Adreno 650      RP6  · 8 Gen 2 / Adreno 740
NES/SNES/GB/GBA   RetroArch cores      full speed                   full speed
Genesis / PC-E    RetroArch cores      full speed                   full speed
Sony PS1          DuckStation          full speed, 2x upscale       full speed, 4x upscale
Nintendo 64       Mupen64Plus-Next     near-full, few holdouts      full speed
Sony PSP          PPSSPP               full speed, 2-3x             full speed, 3x+
Nintendo DS       melonDS              full speed                   full speed
Sega Dreamcast    Flycast              full speed                   full speed
Sega Saturn       Beetle Saturn        playable, title-dependent    mostly full
Sony PS2          NetherSX2            most titles, native res      most titles, 1.5-2x
GameCube          Dolphin              select titles, native        most titles, 3x native
Nintendo Wii      Dolphin              demo-tier, throttles         practical w/ active cooling
Nintendo Switch   (various, unstable)  light 2D only                more titles, still spotty
PS3 / Xbox 360    RPCS3 / Xenia        no                           no

Build, Controls, I/O

Weight and dimensions

The Pocket 6 is bigger and heavier: 320g versus 280g, and 205.5 × 80.5 × 17.2mm against the Pocket 5's 199.2 × 78.5 × 15.6mm. Forty grams and a couple of millimeters in each dimension is the physical cost of the larger battery and the improved cooling, and it is a real trade-off for anyone who plays in bed with the device held above their face, or who values pocketability in the literal sense the product name implies. The Pocket 5 is the more comfortable device for long, low-intensity sessions precisely because it asks less of your wrists. This is one of the few categories where the older model wins outright, and it wins by getting out of the way.

Hall-effect sticks, analog triggers, layout

Both devices use 3D Hall-effect analog sticks — the drift-immune kind, using magnetic sensors rather than the wiper contacts that killed a generation of Joy-Cons — and both have proper analog L2/R2 triggers, which matter for driving and shooting games that expect variable input. The single meaningful controls change on the Pocket 6 is that you choose your layout at checkout: stick-top (offset, Xbox-style) or D-pad-top (symmetrical, PlayStation-style). The Pocket 5 ships in a fixed configuration. For a device whose entire job is playing games designed for a dozen different controllers, being able to match the layout to your muscle memory is a small, thoughtful win — and one you commit to at purchase, so choose deliberately.

Connectivity and video-out

The Pocket 6 upgrades to Wi-Fi 7 and Bluetooth 5.3 from the Pocket 5's Wi-Fi 6 and Bluetooth 5.1, and adds clean 4K60 video-out over USB 3.1 Type-C. This is the row most often misreported: the Pocket 5 is not without video-out. It does DisplayPort-over-USB-C at 4K30 in most configurations and reaches 4K60 through Retroid's official dock. The Pocket 6 simply does 4K60 natively without the dock and negotiates it more reliably. Both turn into a respectable living-room emulation box with a Bluetooth controller; the 6 just does it with one fewer accessory in the bag. If a TV-first setup is your goal, that convenience is worth weighting.

How It Plays: Five Scenarios

The casual and the completionist

The casual player — someone dipping into Chrono Trigger on the couch, an hour at a time — will be perfectly, identically happy on either device. The library that suits casual play is 16-bit and PS1, both trivial for the 865, and the Pocket 5's lighter body is arguably the better couch companion. Buy on price. The completionist, grinding a 60-hour JRPG or hunting every collectible in a GameCube title, cares about two things: sustained performance over long sessions and battery endurance. Here the Pocket 6's better thermals and 6000mAh cell pull ahead, especially if the completion target lives at the GameCube or PS2 tier. For a 100% run of a demanding sixth-gen game, the 6 is the tool that won't make you stop to cool down or recharge as often.

The speedrunner and the co-op partner

The speedrunner needs input latency to be low and, above all, consistent — a run ruined by a dropped frame at a frame-perfect trick is a special kind of misery. The Pocket 6's 120Hz panel meaningfully reduces display latency, and its extra headroom keeps demanding cores pinned at full speed where the Pocket 5 might occasionally dip. For serious practice of anything above PS1, the 6 is the more honest instrument. The co-op partner — two players, one screen, or one device streaming to a TV for couch multiplayer — benefits from the 6's native 4K60 out and its slightly larger, brighter panel for shared viewing. Split-screen GameCube and Wii co-op (Mario Kart, Smash) is exactly the workload that separates these two devices, and it separates them in the 6's favor.

The commuter

The mobile player — train, plane, passenger seat — is where the calculus flips back toward the Pocket 5. Lower weight, a body that disappears into a jacket pocket more willingly, and a library (8-bit through PS1, PSP) that both devices run for eight-plus hours. The commuter's enemy is bulk and dead batteries, and the Pocket 5 is lighter while the Pocket 6 charges faster — pick your poison. If your commute library tops out at PSP and Dreamcast, the Pocket 5 is the smarter travel companion and the money saved buys a lot of microSD storage. If you insist on GameCube on the 07:14 to the city, the 6's endurance earns its extra grams.

Where It Sits

Comparison table vs peers

Neither Retroid exists in a vacuum, and the most useful thing this section can do is place them against the handhelds a buyer actually cross-shops. Note the Steam Deck OLED is a different animal entirely — x86, SteamOS, native PC gaming first and emulation second — and note that it, too, got more expensive in 2026 for the same memory-market reasons.

The FPGA and DIY alternatives

If your objection to all of the above is that software emulation is approximate — that a fractional frame of lag or a mis-timed audio sample offends you — the answer is not a faster phone chip but different hardware entirely. FPGA solutions reproduce original hardware at the logic level, and we've written about where that road leads, from the MiSTer Multisystem 2 at £216 to the DIY route of RetroPie on a Raspberry Pi that still has no 2026 image. At the opposite pole, if $244 feels absurd for a device that mostly plays SNES games, the budget end of the market — where a $60 Miyoo Mini Plus beats devices with more RAM — will serve an 8-bit-and-16-bit habit for a fraction of the money. The Retroid Pockets occupy the sensible, unglamorous middle: too much for a SNES machine, not enough for a Switch machine, exactly right for the sixth generation.

Price/performance verdict

Within the Android-handheld cohort, the Pocket 6 is priced against the AYN Odin 2 Portal, and the two trade blows: the Odin has a bigger 7-inch screen and a much larger 8000mAh battery for $5 more, the Retroid is smaller and lighter with configurable controls. Against the Pocket 5, the 6's value case rests entirely on the sixth-generation tier and the display and charging quality-of-life. Retroid also cannibalized its own lineup here — the now-discontinued G2 and the Pocket 6 between them made the Pocket 5, in HandheldRank's phrasing, a device "outpaced by its own shadow." We covered that internecine warfare in our look at the Pocket 6 versus the dead-at-$219 G2, and it is a real consideration: the Pocket 5's biggest competitor is other Retroids.

Pricing and Availability

The pricing table

The clean version of a messy situation. Prices are goretroid.com direct, July 2026, before shipping and the customs charges that make importing these things its own small adventure.

The 12GB variant that isn't

The most instructive line in that table is the 12GB story, because it is a memory-crunch parable in miniature. Retroid announced a 12GB/256GB tier at $259 at launch, quietly discontinued it around March 2, 2026 as RAM prices spiked, and — per The Gadgeteer — declared it "no longer guaranteed to ship." It reappeared in June as a 12GB/128GB configuration at roughly $279, trading storage for memory and costing more than the original 12GB/256GB it replaced. If you were waiting for the maxed-out Pocket 6, the market moved the goalposts and then charged you for the walk. The practical advice: buy the 8GB/128GB base and put a 2TB microSD in it, because the extra RAM will not improve a single frame of anything you emulate.

Import, warranty, waiting

Both devices ship from China direct via goretroid.com, which means variable shipping windows, occasional customs charges, and a returns process that assumes you won't need it. Warranty support exists but involves international shipping, so budget for the reality that a dead unit is a hassle regardless of coverage. And a word on timing: in a rising-price market, "waiting for a deal" is a losing strategy — the Pocket 6 has gone up $15 since launch, not down, and there is no indication the memory market relents before 2027. If you want one, the cheapest it will be is probably today.

Recommendations

Five use-case picks

The whole review, compressed into decisions:

• The PS1-and-below purist → Pocket 5. Your entire library runs perfectly on the older chip. Pocket the difference and buy storage.
• The GameCube / PS2 / Wii emulator → Pocket 6. This is the tier the 6 was built for and the 5 only reaches partway. The $45 buys you the sixth generation at upscaled resolution.
• The commuter who values weight → Pocket 5. Forty grams lighter, slimmer, and its battery lasts all day on the systems commuters actually play.
• The living-room / TV player → Pocket 6. Native 4K60 out with no dock, brighter panel for shared viewing, better co-op headroom.
• The value hunter → Pocket 5. End-of-life pricing on a device that emulates 90% of what anyone actually plays. The single best price-per-frame in the Retroid lineup right now.
• The future-proofer → Pocket 6, base 8GB/128GB. Ignore the 12GB tier's drama; the Adreno 740 and 120Hz panel are the parts that age well.

Pros and cons

Retroid Pocket 6 — pros:

• ~70% faster single-core; roughly double the GPU throughput for emulation
• 120Hz AMOLED, ~550 nits — the best panel in its class
• 27W fast charging and a larger 6000mAh battery
• Configurable control layout, Wi-Fi 7, native 4K60 out
• Practical GameCube (3x), PS2 (1.5-2x), and Wii support

Retroid Pocket 6 — cons:

• $244 and climbing; the 12GB variant is a moving target
• 40g heavier and physically larger than the 5
• Much of the upgrade is invisible on the retro core of the library
• Still not a Switch machine, and nowhere near PS3/360

Retroid Pocket 5 — pros:

• Sale-only pricing on a still-excellent Snapdragon 865
• Lighter, slimmer, the better travel body
• Flawless emulation up through PS1, strong PSP and Dreamcast
• Video-out via USB-C (4K30, 4K60 with the dock) — not absent

Retroid Pocket 5 — cons:

• 60Hz panel and dimmer ~400 nits
• No fast-charge spec; slower to top up
• Narrower comfortable GameCube list; Wii is demo-tier
• "Cannibalized by its own shadow" — outflanked within Retroid's own lineup

Upgrade or hold?

If you already own a Pocket 5 and your library tops out at PS1, do not upgrade — you would be paying $244 for a brighter menu and a faster charger. If you own a Pocket 5 and you have been fighting your GameCube and PS2 collections at native resolution, the Pocket 6 is a real, felt improvement and a defensible purchase. If you own neither, the decision is the one this whole review has been building to, and it comes down to a single question about the top of your library.

The Verdict

Scoring the Pocket 6

The Pocket 6 is the better device by every metric that isn't weight or price, and it is held back from greatness only by its own restraint. Saltalamacchia's RetroDodo review landed on 8.4/10 and the sharp complaint that "the only disappointment comes from knowing that Retroid can do better here" — that "a $250 device should have something unique" and that "Retroid have played it too safe." That is exactly right. The Pocket 6 is a superb execution of an entirely predictable upgrade: faster chip, faster screen, bigger battery, no surprises, no risks, no signature feature. It "packs some serious power in a very small formfactor," and it does nothing to make you gasp. Retroid Pocket 6: 8.5/10.

Scoring the Pocket 5 in 2026

The Pocket 5 is a harder score, because it is being judged in a world that contains the Pocket 6. Phil Retro at HandheldRank framed it perfectly: "In a vacuum, it's still a fantastic gaming machine," but "the problem isn't the device; it's the neighborhood it lives in." A 2024 flagship-adjacent handheld at end-of-life pricing is a spectacular value for anyone whose ambitions stop at PS1, and a slightly frustrating buy for anyone eyeing the sixth generation, knowing the 6 exists forty-five dollars away. On pure price-per-frame it might be the smartest purchase in the lineup; on future-proofing it is the device you'll want to replace first. Retroid Pocket 5: 7.5/10.

Final rating

Buy the Pocket 6 if your library reaches GameCube, PS2, or Wii, if you want the best panel and fastest charging in the class, and if $244 doesn't make you flinch. Buy the Pocket 5 if you live at PS1 and below, if weight and price matter more than upscaling headroom, and if you'd rather spend the difference on a bigger microSD card. Both are legal to own and legal to run — the Ninth Circuit settled emulator legality a quarter-century ago in Sony Computer Entertainment v. Connectix, calling the emulator "modestly transformative" — and both ship deliberately empty, because the BIOS images and ROMs they need are the part the court never blessed. What you pour into them is your affair, and the history worth preserving is the one writers like Jimmy Maher at the Digital Antiquarian have spent years arguing deserves better than being locked to dead silicon. The Pocket 6 is the better vessel for that argument. The Pocket 5 is the cheaper one. Neither is wrong.