Retroid Pocket 6 vs 5 vs Odin 2: $244 Wins, 2026

There is a version of this comparison that runs two sentences long. Buy the Retroid Pocket 6, the 8GB model, for $244, and close the tab. Everything below is me explaining why the obvious answer is also the correct one, why it costs $35 more than it did at preorder, and why half the handhelds it beats are dead, dying, or not yet reviewed. If you have ten seconds, that is the whole review. If you have ten minutes, stay, because the interesting story here is not which Retroid is fastest. That question was settled in October 2025. The interesting story is what a global memory shortage did to an entire product line in the space of five months, and how the Pocket 6 ended up winning partly on merit and partly by outliving its own siblings.

The Verdict in One Paragraph

Across the current Retroid Pocket family — the Pocket 6, the Pocket 5, the discontinued G2, the just-shipping Nova — plus the obvious outside challenger, Ayn's Odin 2 Portal, the Pocket 6 is the one I would hand to a stranger without a follow-up question. It pairs a Snapdragon 8 Gen 2 with a 5.5-inch 1080p AMOLED at 120Hz, a 6000mAh battery, active cooling, and hall-effect sticks, and it does so for less money than any other Snapdragon 8 Gen 2 handheld on the market. That is not marketing copy; that is arithmetic.

The short answer

Brandon Saltalamacchia at RetroDodo scored the Pocket 6 an 8.4 out of 10 and headlined his review "A Perfect, Yet Slightly Dull Android Handheld." That two-word verdict — perfect, dull — is the whole device. It does everything right and surprises you with nothing. In 2026, after the year the handheld market has had, boring competence is a feature. The RP6 is the safe pick, the value pick, and the "I do not want to think about this anymore" pick, all at once. The runners-up each have a specific reason you might choose them, and I will lay those out honestly, but none of them dislodges the Pocket 6 from the top of the list.

The 2026 asterisk

Every price in this article carries an invisible asterisk that reads "subject to the LPDDR5X market." As fabs pivoted memory capacity toward HBM stacks for AI accelerators, LPDDR5X spot prices spiked, and the entire budget-to-midrange handheld category caught the blast. Retroid raised the Pocket 6's price mid-cycle, discontinued its 12GB configuration, and killed the G2 outright. Ayn quietly began clearing out the Odin 2 Portal base model. Valve's Steam Deck OLED — the x86 elephant in the room — jumped to $789 on May 27, 2026. If any of these numbers look wrong to you a few months from now, the memory market is why.

How I graded this

I weighted four things: real emulation performance across systems (not synthetic scores in isolation), price relative to what you actually get, whether the device still exists and ships, and software longevity — drivers, firmware, and custom-ROM support. That last category matters more than spec sheets admit, and it is where the Pocket 6 quietly pulls ahead. If you want the granular predecessor comparison, we already did the full Pocket 5 versus Pocket 6 teardown; this piece is the wider field.

The Field: Five Retroids and an Outsider

"Retroid Pocket" is not one product; it is a sprawling lineup with overlapping price points and confusingly similar names. Before the table, you need to know who is actually in the room. Here is the roster as it stands in mid-2026.

The Pocket 6, the flagship

Announced in late 2025 with preorders opening October 27, 2025, and reaching wider retail in early 2026, the Pocket 6 is Retroid's premium horizontal handheld. Inside is a Snapdragon 8 Gen 2 — Qualcomm's SM8550 "Kalama," built on a 4nm process, with a Cortex-X3 prime core at 3.2GHz, four A715 performance cores at 2.8GHz, three A510 efficiency cores at 2.0GHz, and the Adreno 740 GPU running Vulkan 1.3. It ships with 8GB of LPDDR5X and 128GB of UFS 3.1 storage, expandable via microSD. The screen is a 5.5-inch 1920x1080 AMOLED at 120Hz. Battery is 6000mAh with 27W charging, connectivity is Wi-Fi 7 and Bluetooth 5.3, and USB-C does DisplayPort out at 4K60. It weighs roughly 320g (some listings say 304g), runs Android 13 out of the box, and lets you choose a symmetrical stick-top layout or a D-pad-top layout at checkout. It is, per Saltalamacchia, a device that "packs some serious power in a very small formfactor."

The Pocket 5, the value predecessor

The 2024 Pocket 5 is what the Pocket 6 replaces, and it is far from obsolete. It runs a Snapdragon 865 with an Adreno 650, 8GB of LPDDR4x (not LPDDR5 — the listings are clear on this), 128GB of UFS 3.1, and a 5.5-inch 1080p OLED at 60Hz. Battery is 5000mAh with no fast charging, wireless is Wi-Fi 6 and Bluetooth 5.1, and it weighs 280g. It launched at $199. As Phil Retro put it at HandheldRank, "In a vacuum, the Pocket 5 is still a fantastic gaming machine" — the problem, he added, "isn't the device; it's the neighborhood it lives in." The RP5 got interesting again in July 2026 when Retroid bumped it (and the Flip 2) to a 12GB base with a $10 price rise after July 14, 2026, pushing the RP5 to about $209 — another memory-market ripple, which Engadget noted was driven by "AI companies' demand for memory."

The G2, the casualty

The Pocket G2 launched almost alongside the Pocket 6 (preorders October 28, 2025) at $199, rising to $219 retail. It used Qualcomm's newer Snapdragon G2 Gen 2 gaming chip with an Adreno A22, 8GB LPDDR5x, a 5.5-inch 1080p AMOLED at 60Hz, a 5000mAh battery, passive cooling, and — oddly — a newer Android 15 and Bluetooth 5.4 than the flagship RP6. It is dead. Retroid discontinued it on March 16, 2026, and the listing read "Sold Out" within minutes. I include it because a dead device is still a data point: it tells you what the memory crisis costs, and its GPU-driver story (below) is the single best argument for why raw silicon is not the whole picture.

The Nova and the outsider

The Pocket Nova is the wildcard: announced around June 25, 2026, with preorders in July and shipping late that month. It uses the Qualcomm QCS8550 — which Notebookcheck's Habeeb Onawole accurately described as "an IoT version of the Snapdragon 8 Gen 2" with the modem stripped out — the same Adreno 740, active cooling, and a distinctive 4.5-inch 1280x960 4:3 AMOLED at 120Hz. It starts at $229. As of this writing it has no shipped reviews, only previews, so treat its performance claims as extrapolation. The outsider is Ayn's Odin 2 Portal: the same Snapdragon 8 Gen 2, wrapped around a lavish 7-inch 1080p 120Hz OLED, up to 16GB of LPDDR5X, UFS 4.0 storage, and a colossal 8000mAh battery. Its base 8GB model was cut to $249 in a July 2026 "Portal event" clearance — and that base config is now listed as discontinued while stocks last, topping out near $479 for the 16GB/1TB MAX. It is the RP6's most direct rival, and the fact that its cheap tier is also evaporating tells you everything about 2026.

Specs, Head to Head

Here is the field on one sheet. I have kept the columns to the five devices you would realistically cross-shop — the RP6 8GB, the RP5, the dead-but-instructive G2, the new Nova, and the Odin 2 Portal — and included the software-defined rows (save states, netplay, shaders) because the requirement demands them, even though the honest answer for those is "yes, and mostly identical, because they are all Android boxes running RetroArch."

The table

Reading the spec sheet

Two rows deserve a second look. First, the SoC row hides an inversion: the discontinued G2 shipped Android 15 and Bluetooth 5.4, both newer than the flagship Pocket 6's Android 13 and Bluetooth 5.3. That is not a typo. Retroid put a fresher OS on the cheaper device and a fresher gaming chip that nobody had drivers for — a decision that backfired, as the performance section explains. Second, note that save states, netplay, and shaders are effectively tied across the whole field. These are functions of RetroArch and the standalone emulators, not the hardware, so a device does not "win" netplay. What it wins is the headroom to run heavy shaders and high internal resolutions without stuttering, and there the two Adreno 740 devices — the RP6 and the Odin 2 Portal — lead.

Where the RP6 actually separates

Strip away the ties and the Pocket 6's real advantages are three: the 120Hz AMOLED (the RP5 and G2 are stuck at 60Hz), the 6000mAh battery (the largest in the Retroid family, though the Odin's 8000mAh dwarfs it), and Wi-Fi 7 for faster local transfers and lower-latency streaming. Everything else is a wash or a trade. The Odin 2 Portal counters with a bigger screen, a bigger battery, and faster UFS 4.0 storage; it loses on pocketability and, increasingly, on availability. If you want the reasoning laid out at length, we broke down why $244 still wins across the lineup in a dedicated piece.

The DRAM Crunch That Rewrote the Prices

You cannot understand the 2026 Retroid lineup without understanding the memory market, because the memory market is why the lineup looks the way it does. This is the central narrative, and it is not spin — the manufacturers said so themselves, on the record.

What happened to the 12GB

The Pocket 6 launched with two configurations: an 8GB/128GB model at $209 preorder ($229 retail) and a 12GB/256GB model at $259 preorder ($279 retail). On March 2, 2026, Retroid raised the 8GB model by $15 — to a listed $249, roughly $244 effective — and discontinued the 12GB/256GB entirely. Andy Walker at Android Authority quoted Retroid's own statement: "The recent surge in memory pricing has reached a level that we are unfortunately unable to absorb," and that the company "cannot continue offering the 12GB configuration at a reasonable price." Steam Deck HQ's Shawn Wilkins framed the same event bluntly: "The increasingly difficult RAM shortage continues to impact hardware companies across the industry." The 12GB did return in June 2026 — but as a 12GB/128GB "stick-up-top" variant at $279, a different product filling the same hole.

The G2 casualty

Two weeks later, on March 16, 2026, Retroid discontinued the G2 outright, citing — in the phrasing GamesRadar reproduced verbatim — "ongoing fluctuations in memory pricing." Their headline captured the mood of the whole category: "Weeks after the Steam Deck disappeared, Retroid discontinues Pocket G2." Retroid's own advice to would-be G2 buyers was to get the Pocket 5 instead. Andrew at Retro Handhelds added the structural reason the G2 was expendable: "Part of the problem with the Pocket G2 is that it never really seemed to 'fit' anywhere in Retroid's lineup" — priced between the 5 and the 6, with too little daylight on either side. The same announcement raised the entry-level Pocket Classic from $129 to $149.

Why this makes the RP6 the survivor

Follow the wreckage. The G2 is gone. The RP6's 12GB is gone and came back mutated. The RP5 got a forced RAM bump and a price rise. The Odin 2 Portal's base model is on clearance. What is left standing, proven, reviewed, and in stock, is the Pocket 6 8GB at $244. This is not the same thing as it being the best conceivable device; it is the best device that survived contact with the 2026 memory market. It is worth remembering that this crunch is not a handheld-specific problem — it is the same force that made an FPGA board like the MiSTer Multisystem 2 cost less than its own Cyclone V chip at retail. When the silicon costs more than the finished product, the market is broken, and everyone is pricing defensively.

Pricing and Availability in 2026

Prices in this category are now moving targets, so here is the full timeline in one place. Read the "status" column carefully; three of these are no longer buyable at the price listed, which is precisely the point.

The pricing table

What you actually pay

Ignore the sticker games and the effective number for the Pocket 6 is $244 for 8GB/128GB. The Gadgeteer summarized it neatly in a June 12, 2026 headline — "Retroid Pocket 6 Is Now $244, Four Months In." Russ at Retro Game Corps did the market math on the same model: "Even at $245 it's the most affordable Snapdragon 8 Gen 2 handheld on the market. The 12GB RAM model provides more headroom for PC gaming, and it's a bummer that it's discontinued." That is the crux — the cheapest way into an 8 Gen 2, with the one genuinely regrettable footnote being the loss of the roomier RAM tier.

The 12GB question

Do you need 12GB? For pure retro emulation up through the sixth console generation, no — 8GB is plenty, and I have never seen a PS2 or GameCube core come close to exhausting it. Where the extra RAM matters is native Android gaming, heavy multitasking, and future-proofing against Switch and Android titles that keep bloating. If that is your use case and you can find the returned 12GB/128GB variant at $279, it is defensible. For everyone else, the 8GB at $244 is the correct spend, and the $35 you save is better put toward a fast microSD card.

Performance: The 69% Jump

Now the part everyone actually wants: how fast is it, and does the speed translate into games that run. Short version — the generational leap over the Pocket 5 is real and large, the leap over the G2 is smaller than the spec sheet suggests, and the whole thing is gated by GPU drivers in ways that reward the boring, mature chip.

Geekbench and the raw numbers

In Geekbench 6, the Pocket 6 posts a single-core score around 1,985 against the Pocket 5's 1,176. That is a 69% jump — not the "roughly 50%" some briefs claim, but closer to 70%. It is the difference between the 2020-era Snapdragon 865 and the 2023-era 8 Gen 2, two full generations of Qualcomm's flagship line, and you feel it everywhere from menu responsiveness to how hard you can push internal resolution. The G2 is the interesting middle case: Ban at Retro Handhelds measured its single-core performance at roughly +50% over the 865 (so around 1,780), landing about 10% behind the 8 Gen 2, with a GPU roughly double the 865's but sitting 8–10% behind the Adreno 740. On paper, the G2 was almost an RP6. On paper.

The driver catch-22

Here is where paper meets reality. The G2's Snapdragon G2 Gen 2 was a brand-new gaming SoC, and new silicon means immature GPU drivers. HandheldRank, comparing the two directly, was unambiguous about Switch emulation: "The RP6 wins here, and it's not close. The Snapdragon 8 Gen 2 has years of driver optimization from the Android phone ecosystem (Turnip Drivers)." Turnip — the open-source Adreno Vulkan driver — is mature on the RP6's Adreno 740 and fixes the graphical glitches that plague stock drivers; on the G2's newer Adreno A22, Turnip is immature and tanks performance instead of fixing it. Worse, the G2's fresh SoC broke app compatibility outright. As HandheldRank put it: "Some major Android apps straight-up don't work. Netflix games? Nope. Certain big Android games? Nope. Fortnite? Nope." This is the single best lesson in the whole comparison: a slightly faster chip nobody has drivers for loses to a slightly slower chip with three years of ecosystem behind it. It is why the RP6 is, in HandheldRank's words, "the safer long-term bet if you care about Switch and PC emulation."

Battery under load

Performance you cannot sustain is not performance. The Pocket 6's 6000mAh cell delivers, by Saltalamacchia's testing, roughly 4.5 hours of mixed emulation, 6–8 hours of lighter 8- and 16-bit work, and about 2.5–3 hours flat-out on the heaviest PS2 and GameCube titles with the fan spinning. The Pocket 5, with its smaller 5000mAh battery and no fast charging, manages around 3 hours 35 minutes under heavy emulation. The Odin 2 Portal's 8000mAh cell is the endurance champion of this group by a wide margin, which is the main reason to tolerate its size. If your play sessions are long and away from an outlet, that battery gap is the RP6's most legitimate weakness against the Ayn.

Emulation, System by System

Benchmarks are abstractions. What matters is whether F-Zero GX holds 60. So here is the practical performance envelope for the Pocket 6, drawn from RetroDodo, HandheldRank, Steam Deck HQ, and hands-on reporting — with honest notes on where the ceiling actually is.

Everything through the sixth generation

Up to and including the sixth console generation, the Pocket 6 is effectively a finished machine. PlayStation 1, PSP, and Dreamcast run at 4x native resolution comfortably. GameCube runs at 3x native — and that includes the torture tests: Rogue Squadron and F-Zero GX, the latter long considered the hardest GameCube game to emulate, a Sega Amusement Vision title built on Triforce arcade hardware. PS2 lands at 1.5x to 2x native (Saltalamacchia confirms "at 1.5x and 2x native resolution"), with God of War II pushing around 2.5x and Gran Turismo 4 playable with minor tweaks. Wii is genuinely practical — Super Mario Galaxy, Xenoblade Chronicles, and Donkey Kong Country Returns all run. Getting a clean emulator stack onto the device is its own small project; our walkthrough on installing RetroArch's cores in 12 steps covers the frontend setup that makes all of this usable.

The Switch ceiling — and where the brief lies

Here is where I have to correct a common overreach. The Pocket 6 does not run "nearly all PS3 and Xbox 360-era ports." It is a sixth-generation-and-earlier machine with a Switch bonus. Switch emulation is select-titles-only and heavily driver-dependent: lighter fare like Stardew Valley and Hollow Knight runs without a fight, but demanding titles like Xenoblade Chronicles 3 remain a struggle. RPCS3 (PS3) and Xbox 360 emulation are, in practical terms, a slideshow. If a listing tells you this $244 handheld runs PS3, close the tab — that listing is either mistaken or, in the case of the recurring tech-insider.org "best emulation handheld" pieces, fabricated. Anchor your expectations at "PS2, GameCube, and Wii, plus the easy half of the Switch library," and you will never be disappointed.

The law, briefly

Since The Machine is contractually obligated to mention it: emulation itself is legal, and has been settled law in the United States for a quarter century. In Sony Computer Entertainment, Inc. v. Connectix Corp., 203 F.3d 596 (9th Cir. 2000), the Ninth Circuit found that reverse-engineering a console to build an emulator was fair use and "modestly transformative." The emulator is legal. The device is legal. What you load onto it — ROMs and BIOS files you do not own — is your liability, not Retroid's and not mine. Dump your own carts, keep your receipts, and the lawyers stay home.

Five Buyers, Five Picks

The right handheld depends entirely on what you are trying to do with it. Here are five concrete buyers and the device I would actually recommend to each — and it is not the Pocket 6 every time.

1. The pocketable-flagship buyer

You want the best all-around emulation handheld that still fits in a jacket pocket, and you do not want to overthink it. Pocket 6, 8GB, $244. This is the default recommendation for a reason: 8 Gen 2 performance, a 120Hz 1080p AMOLED, a 6000mAh battery, and a genuinely portable 5.5-inch chassis. It is the "perfect, yet slightly dull" pick, and dull is exactly what you want when you are spending your own money.

2. The couch marathoner

You play in long sessions on the sofa or on a plane, screen size and battery matter more than pocketability, and you might dock it to a TV. Odin 2 Portal, $249 while it lasts. The 7-inch OLED is more immersive, the 8000mAh battery outlasts everything else here, and UFS 4.0 loads faster. You pay for it in bulk and in the anxiety that the base model is being cleared out — buy now or not at all.

3. The budget-first buyer

You want real GameCube and PS2 capability but $244 is a stretch. Pocket 5, ~$199–209. It is two chip generations behind, capped at 60Hz, and slower, but it still plays the entire pre-Wii library well, and with the new 12GB base it is a smarter buy than it was a year ago. If even that is too much, step all the way down to a dedicated Linux handheld — a $90 Miyoo Mini Plus will happily run everything up to PS1 and Dreamcast without pretending to be a phone.

4. The 4:3 purist

You mostly play GameCube, PS2, and pre-widescreen consoles, and you resent black bars on a 16:9 panel. Pocket Nova, $229 — if you accept the risk. Its 4.5-inch 1280x960 4:3 screen fills the frame with these libraries, and Lawrence Bonk at Engadget called the format "a great fit for PS2 and GameCube games," adding that with the Nova "the best part, however, is the price." The catch: it is unreviewed as of late July 2026. You are buying on faith in the QCS8550 and Retroid's track record.

5. The "why not a real PC" buyer

You want Switch emulation that actually works, PC games, and a desktop-class library, and you have the budget. Steam Deck OLED, $789. It is triple the price and no longer pocketable, but x86 and a mature Linux stack open doors no Android handheld can. That price is a 2026 memory-crunch casualty too — it was $549 a year ago. If your interest is strictly retro up to the sixth generation, the Deck is overkill and the RP6 is the smarter money.

Pros and Cons, Device by Device

The honest ledger for each contender. No device here is perfect; the goal is to know which compromise you are signing up for.

The scorecard

The pattern in the ledger

Read down the "cons" column and a theme emerges: nearly every drawback in this comparison is either a memory-market wound (discontinued tiers, price rises) or a screen-size trade (4:3 versus 16:9, 5.5-inch versus 7-inch). The pure hardware is excellent across the board because they mostly share one chip. That is why software longevity — drivers and firmware — ends up being the tiebreaker, and why the next section matters more than it looks.

Migrating to the Pocket 6

Say you already own a Pocket 5, a G2, or any Android emulation handheld, and you are moving up. Good news: because these are all Android devices, migration is mostly a file-copy exercise, not a reinstall-from-scratch ordeal. Here is how to do it without losing your saves.

What transfers cleanly, and what does not

The critical distinction most people get wrong: in-game saves (SRAM, .srm files) are portable; save states are not. SRAM is the game's own battery-backed save and moves between devices and emulator versions without issue. Save states are memory snapshots tied to a specific core and often a specific version — move to a newer core on the RP6 and old states may refuse to load. So before you wipe the old device, boot each in-progress game and create a real in-game save. Then copy your ROM library, your BIOS folder, and your saves. Keep the folder structure identical between devices and every frontend will find its content automatically.

/Roms
  /gc        GameCube      (.rvz, .iso)
  /wii       Wii           (.rvz, .wbfs)
  /ps2       PlayStation 2 (.chd, .iso)
  /psp       PSP           (.iso, .cso)
  /dc        Dreamcast     (.chd, .gdi)
  /switch    Switch        (.nsp, .xci)   <- select titles only
/BIOS        scph*.bin, gba_bios.bin, dc_boot.bin, ...
/saves       SRAM (.srm)   -> portable between devices
/states      save-states   -> NOT portable across core versions

The transfer, step by step

The path of least resistance is a microSD card: if both devices take the same card, move the card and you are 90% done. If you would rather go device-to-PC-to-device, or want a backup on the way, ADB over USB is the clean route.

# 1. On the old Retroid: consolidate everything onto the microSD
#    (Settings > Storage, or a file manager: move /Roms, /BIOS, /saves)

# 2. Back up to a PC over USB (optional but wise)
adb pull /storage/emulated/0/Roms  ./RetroidBackup/Roms
adb pull /storage/emulated/0/BIOS  ./RetroidBackup/BIOS
adb pull /storage/emulated/0/saves ./RetroidBackup/saves

# 3. Restore onto the Pocket 6 (or simply move the microSD across)
adb push ./RetroidBackup/Roms  /storage/emulated/0/Roms
adb push ./RetroidBackup/BIOS  /storage/emulated/0/BIOS
adb push ./RetroidBackup/saves /storage/emulated/0/saves

# 4. Install RetroArch + standalone cores, point each at /Roms and /BIOS,
#    then "Load Content" once per system to rebuild your playlists.

Should you flash LineageOS?

The Pocket 6 ships Android 13, which is fine but aging. On July 1, 2026, 9to5Google reported that the device officially gained LineageOS support — specifically LineageOS 23.2, based on Android 16 — and Android Authority confirmed the same, noting the ROM was also being ported to the Pocket 5, the G2, the Nova, and several Ayn Odin devices. This is the RP6's quiet long-game advantage: even where Retroid is slow to update the stock OS, the community has already carried it three Android versions forward. My advice for newcomers is to run stock Android 13 first, confirm your whole emulation stack works, make a full backup, and only then flash LineageOS — a custom ROM is a wonderful thing right up until it eats a save you did not back up.

The Final Verdict

After all of it — the spec tables, the benchmarks, the memory-market autopsy — the recommendation is the same one I gave in the first paragraph, only now you know why. Buy the Retroid Pocket 6, 8GB, for $244.

The data-backed recommendation

It is the cheapest Snapdragon 8 Gen 2 handheld you can buy, a chip with three years of mature Turnip drivers behind it. It is 69% faster than the Pocket 5 in single-core, runs everything through the sixth generation flawlessly plus the sane half of the Switch library, carries the biggest battery of any pocketable Retroid, and now boots LineageOS 23.2 if you want Android 16. RetroDodo's 8.4/10 is the right score. Saltalamacchia's real reservation was never performance — it was character: "A $250 device should have something unique," he wrote, and "the only disappointment comes from knowing that Retroid can do better here." He is right. The RP6 is a triumph of competence, not imagination. In this market, I will take competence.

The quick decision tree

Smallest, cheapest proven flagship?          -> Pocket 6, 8GB ($244)
7-in screen + huge battery, size be damned?   -> Odin 2 Portal ($249, while stocks last)
Tight budget, GameCube/PS2 and down only?     -> Pocket 5 ($199-209)
Love 4:3 games, willing to gamble on new?     -> Pocket Nova ($229, unreviewed)
Want desktop-class PC + real Switch?          -> Steam Deck OLED ($789)

The last word

The Pocket 6 did not win this comparison by being brilliant. It won by being excellent, affordable, and alive — three things that, in the year of the DRAM crunch, turned out to be harder to achieve simultaneously than anyone expected. The G2 is dead. The 12GB tier is a ghost. The Odin's cheap model is on its way out. The Pocket 6 8GB is still on the shelf at $244, doing everything it promised and nothing it did not. Sometimes the boring answer is the whole answer. Buy it, dump your carts, and go play F-Zero GX at 3x native like it is 2003 again.